Everyone is welcome at our table.

Like a lively dinner conversation at a “four top” (that’s a table for four in restaurant parlance), The Four Top is a roundtable discussion of the hot button topics in wine culture.

In each episode, our cohosts are joined by distinguished experts to discuss the big issues in wine culture, relating to sustainability, human rights, and contemporary life.

Our approach is journalistic, but our tone is friendly, fun, and entertaining. Let us know what you think of cohost Martin Reyes, MW’s “dad jokes”!

The Four Top is winner of both the James Beard and IACP awards for Best Culinary Podcast.

listen nowAppleSpotifyStitcherOvercastYouTube

Meet Our Team

Katherine b&w photo

Katherine Cole

Host and Executive Producer

Katherine is a recovering wine journalist and the author of five books on wine (check out Sparkling Wine Anytime). She is also Communications Director at Vin Agency. She is featured in the documentary American Wine Story, and was named to the “Imbibe 75” list of “the people, places, and flavors that will help shape the way we all drink.” A graduate of Harvard College and the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, Katherine is “Mama” to two bilingual daughters, two dogs, and a tortoise. When she’s not working, she’s outdoors—whether on skis, two feet, or a bike—or volunteering.

Katherine's Website

Martin The Four Top

Martin Reyes, MW


Martin is an international wine consultant, winemaker, importer, educator, and frequent speaker and moderator recognized for his expertise in sustainability. The cofounder and copresident of the nonprofit diversity initiative Wine Unify, Martin directs production for Sonoma-based Peter Paul Wines and heads Reyes Wine Group LLC, a consulting firm. A first-generation American and the first Master of Wine of Mexican descent, Martin was named a Wine Enthusiast “Top 40 under 40 Tastemakers” in 2015. He raises his two children trilingually—take that, Katherine!—in California.

Martin's Website

Kielen The Four Top

Kielen King

Sound Supervisor

A man of many talents with a radio voice that Katherine covets, Kielen not only records and edits our show, but also composed and performed our theme music. Kielen’s professional career spans music and podcast production, web and content management, graphic design and authoring children’s books. He keeps his hands in various disciplines, aiming to be the person you come to when you need sound, images, and creativity to merge with the fantastic. He lives in Vancouver with his wife and adorable toddler.

Kielen's Website

Nick The Four Top

Nick Toole


Although he enjoys being nitpicky about grammar and spelling, Nick spends most of his time away from a desk. He has a background in hospitality and beer production—he recently became a Certified Cicerone®—and is an avid home cook and baker. Nick lives in Portland, ME (the original Portland) with his partner and cat.

Email Nick

Michelle The Four Top

Michelle Richards

Audio Editor

Michelle lends her skill as an audio professional to make sure each episode sounds amazing. A composer and producer for film and TV, Michelle has scored feature films and commercials. Her music has been placed on more than 100 episodes of television across NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, and more. She loves cooking and eating interesting foods around Portland and can always be counted on to sing harmony to anything.

Michelle's Website

Ruby Welkovich Headshot

Ruby Welkovich

Media & Design Manager

If she manages to tell you more than the synopsis of her latest book obsession, Ruby would probably tell you that she is a Brooklyn based theatre and film actor, and very much a Taurus. In between auditions, Ruby works as a graphic/web designer and all around creative consultant.

In her free time, Ruby dabbles in embroidery, loves the challenge of recreating favorite dishes into plant-based recipes… and did we mention reading?

Ruby's Website

Izzy The Four Top

Izzy Kramer

Senior Producer Emeritus

When she’s not working hard to develop episode topics, wrangle guests, manage social media, and communicate with episode sponsors, Izzy is an elementary education assistant. She is working on her Masters in Education at Portland State with the plan to have her own classroom in a few years. With a previous career in advertising and media, a passion for podcasts, and a love of fine dining, Izzy is an invaluable member of The Four Top team. She is a rare homegrown Oregonian and has no plans to leave any time soon. She lives in Portland with her partner and world-famous cat, Rosy.


Profound thanks to our colleagues and friends at Vin Agency for building this beautiful website, and to Lex Rule for the aesthetic refresh!

About Our Music

Our theme music was composed and performed by our editor, sound supervisor, and smooth outro voice, the one and only Kielen King.